tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2494261085549436083.post356229732377056947..comments2010-03-13T16:05:04.127-05:00Comments on Forward Movement: Rules of RevolutionStephanie Soondarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10641501848328041087noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2494261085549436083.post-51055790906022454992009-07-09T11:37:40.000-04:002009-07-09T11:37:40.000-04:00I was thinking about the jus ad bellum concepts, t...I was thinking about the jus ad bellum concepts, trying to analogize the rules for when use of force is justifiable to the rules for when (armed) UN intervention into the affairs of a sovereign state is justifiable. The relevant factors are 1) citizen demonstration by a sizeable group, 2) reasonable question as to the legitimacy of an election (or some other crucial process), 3) violent suppression of the protesters by the government, and 4) lack of legal/ peaceful recourse available to the dissenting faction (lack, as distinguished from exhaustion of legal remedies). Obviously, these criteria create questions such as what constitutes a “sizeable” group, what kinds of events besides elections may trigger need for intervention, how is one to judge whether there is, in fact, fraud being perpetrated by the government, fraud that directly affects the self-determination principle, and fraud that must be a direct cause of the citizen protests. The other question is exactly what kind of intervention may be appropriate, and what factors should guide whether it is armed, or consisting only of diplomats or envoys (here, the starting point would be the degree of violence used by the government against the people.) Yet another question is how many UN members ought to agree before action is taken, who pays for it, who participates, etc, etc. However difficult these questions may be, it’s worthwhile and necessary for an international organization of states to consider them, in order to uphold the principles and ideals on the basis of which the UN was formed in the first place, and on the basis of which its Charters, rules and protocols are founded.Olganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2494261085549436083.post-5653642463082654322009-07-08T12:20:06.837-04:002009-07-08T12:20:06.837-04:00Interesting post, Bolga!
When you talk "rule...Interesting post, Bolga!<br /><br />When you talk "rules of war," this is Justum Bellum? Or various Conventions and Protocols? If the former, then am I to understand the factors considered in waging a 'just' intervention are: peaceful citizen demonstration, of a questionably fraudulent election, and violent government suppression? Are other factors of Jus Ad Bellum relevant (ie, likelihood of success)? And what factors do you think should be considered in the course of a 'just' intervention (ie, proportionality; similar to Jus In Bello)?Stephanie Soondarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10641501848328041087noreply@blogger.com